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Relevant chapter: Learning Symbolism from Dion Fortune & Other Influences
to speak on about Dion and symbolism along those lines? Yeah, she taught me how to what it was for, you know. She literally she taught me exactly how to utilize um symbolism. I got some of it from Regggery. I even got a little bit of it and I, you know, this is this is a probably, as you know, a big admission for me. I got a little bit of it from Crowley. Um because even if I don't agree, like I will read it anyway, you know. Um because there's something to learn from everybody. Nobody is completely, you know,
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Relevant chapter: Learning Symbolism from Dion Fortune & Other Influences
don't read that. I'm not a believer in it. Um but but uh the force of Crowley's personality tends to drag people into like uh cult status. So there's that. But um Dion Fortune principally taught me how to utilize the occult and what the occult was. Um, but she gives you just enough that you're not able to project these things that she's talking about onto your own experience. She she gives you just enough to the point where you can understand your experience if you're if
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Relevant chapter: Readiness for Occult Practice & Out-of-Body Experiences
you're actually, you know, allowing yourself to, you know, open to these practices and to these higher states because some people aren't ready. Not everybody like you might want to but that you're not you might not be ready to go out of body. You know what I'm saying? Like that's mildly traumatic if you're not you know it's traumatic in any case but like if you're not in like a car accident or near death and all of a sudden you're just looking down at the top of your
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Relevant chapter: Readiness for Occult Practice & Out-of-Body Experiences
balding head from from above yourself and that you're like how the [ __ ] did I get here? You know it's it's it's jarring. >> Chris experience. >> Yeah. Right. I mean, it's like it's not I feel like people have one of two reactions. Either like, "Wow, I want to do that again." Like now. >> Mine was, "I don't ever want to do that again." But but I I did. But um but uh so she helped me make sense of symbolism. Um she helped me make sense also of the
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Relevant chapter: Emanationism & Platonic Influence
principle of emanationism. She helped me make sense of an idea that Plato had instilled in me and and and Hey, can you hear me? >> Yeah, it just chipped out for a second, but I can hear you. >> All right, give me one second. >> Okay, >> how's that? >> All right, back in business. So, so she she basically helped me make sense of something that Plato had had kind of instilled in my young mind when I was reading uh some of his dialogues in my my late teens. And uh you know the idea of
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Relevant chapter: The Kybalion & Mystical Qabalah as Foundational Texts
super essential existence um the idea that well and you get it too in the Caballion. So I can't [ __ ] on the Caballion completely. As a matter of fact, I it's cool to [ __ ] on the Caballion, you know, because like of how aerodyite everyone is and like look at how [ __ ] big this book is, huh? You know, like it's a dick measuring contest. Um, but it's it's I read the whole thing. It's like how much you how much did you understand, you know, like tell me tell me that. But,
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Relevant chapter: The Kybalion & Mystical Qabalah as Foundational Texts
um, the Cabalian and Mystical Cabala are the two books I recommend to all incoming initiates. I don't want them to read anything about the Golden Dawn because I don't want to ruin their going to build up expectations about it that are going to ultimately get in their own way. But the Cabalian and the and the Mystical Cabala are the two the two books I recommend everybody read. And what they have in common is this idea of the super essentiality of of being archetypal existence. um what Plato would have called the the the
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Relevant chapter: Archetypes, Forms & Superessential Reality
realm of ideals or forms and helped me to understand a pretty big thing that I that has borne itself out to this day. I was thinking about this this morning. It's still I read this book, you know, 15 years ago, The Mystical Cabala, and to this day, like it's still making sense. It's it's it's not something I look back on and say no. It's like oh my god like it's still totally valid. And this idea is basically that human beings are the vessels uh for archetypal super essential
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Relevant chapter: Emanation & the Tree of Life Explained
e emanated but the idea is that there are in order for things to differentiate out of that undifferentiated ated you know tohen that we call it apohaticism what we were talking about earlier not being able to like talking about things in the negative that's the we call it the apohatic tradition it's huge in eastern religion um and it was big in in platonism neoplatanism of platinus so in order for that to generate into all the multivariety we see it has to separate but it it doesn't separate into atoms
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Relevant chapter: Embodying Qualities: Balance vs Imbalance
it's lust. Um it's the lower astral, the realm of fantasms, things like that. So, so um those qualities are constantly pouring in through us. We can't help but uh but to do that. and we're we're constantly embodying them and expressing them and so it be it becomes like really apppropo when you start thinking about like things like politics and you know I hate to go there but it's a fantastic example and it's the one most readily present in the modern day you get these two sides right now and
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Relevant chapter: The Kybalion: Value & Simplicity
And I learned that from the mystical cabal. I learned that from Dion fortune. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh kind of speaking back to the cabalian a little bit. I know it's not like super in-depth, but I think it is such a great foundation and definitely has a special place for me because it was, you know, one of the first that I had come across. I found it super comprehensive. It was like literally one of the first books as elementary as it was that kind of like opened me up to a lot of these things
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Relevant chapter: The Kybalion: Value & Simplicity
down, you know, like the seven principles and all that. So, it gets a lot of like attention and it's put out there by everybody. So, it's super trendy, but I do like it and I do think that it's valuable. So I think it's a good recommendation like for like you say people coming into these things. Um >> Yeah. Yeah. Because the thing is like you you don't I would rather have somebody who's like telling me, you know, I want to talk with the spirit of my dead grandmother,
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Relevant chapter: Hermetic Influences Behind the Kybalion
evidence that proved me wrong, I wouldn't really give that much of a [ __ ] But the thing is like I do believe that Paul Foster case was you know as he has been alleged uh to be I do believe he was one of the three initiates quote unquote that wrote that book and uh he was a Golden Dawn initiate by way of the um the Stella Matutina you know so he definitely would have known his [ __ ] >> What about William Atkinson? You think he had a hand? >> Um I think so. I think if there's any
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Relevant chapter: Authorship Speculation & Critique
evidence, it's there, you know, for him, especially because he wrote like the eight cosmic principles after he added like one he added like another principle. Um, and he released that like shortly after uh the cabal. Here's the thing, he could have just seen a good thing and capitalized on it, but I don't know if there's like records from his publisher um or anything like that. Uh, but sure, William Wker Atinson for me was one of those new thought guys. So, not a fan. That's the That's the problem I
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Relevant chapter: Authorship Speculation & Critique
have with with the Cabalion. The Caballion is basically it's like um it's like drinking skim milk, you know? Uh it's like, yeah, okay, I get it. It's like it people like it. Maybe it's it's good for you, but the people who drink it are [ __ ] obnoxious, you know? It's like one of those >> with you on that. you know, it's like I don't give a [ __ ] You read Deepo Chopra and then read this book. I I I can't have a conversation with you yet, you know, like let's let's let's get you
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Relevant chapter: The Kybalion as Entry-Level Teaching
somewhere else. But it's it's great when you're first coming to uh when you're first coming here. Sure. It's a great text, right? Because what else are you going to read? So, >> definitely. All right. So, uh >> that's why I that's why I love this [ __ ] podcast because I get to just kind of I get to just say like wild [ __ ] like that. It's my favorite. >> All right. So, the circuit of force um this may relate to color magic, but uh I was looking at the chapter titled
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Relevant chapter: Color Magic & Psychic Centers
three that I could see. >> Yeah, because because the four the fourth color is probably uh specked. It probably has little little flashes in it. I think it would be like >> like maybe gray fleck black or fleck gold or something like that. So, the thing is with all of these attributions of color, this was a tremendous part of the first iteration of the inner order of the Golden Dawn. Um, color magic is tremendous in the Golden Dawn. Still, um, it's the main sort of of a neopight adapt minor
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Relevant chapter: Moina Mathers & Color Scale System
of the Golden Dawn, even though she wasn't a chief, she was ju, you know, just as much uh part of the leadership um and and founding of the Golden Dawn as anyone else. Uh she was an artist and she went to art school. In fact, she she met Annie Hornman um in art school and uh who was, you know, a benefactor to her and her husband for their the rest of their lives almost. and uh was a major part of the the hermetic order of the golden dawn any ornament. Um but so Moina put together the entire list of uh
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Relevant chapter: Color Magic in Practice & Correspondences
huge part of uh, and they're all corresponded to different zodiacal signs, planets, all sorts of crazy [ __ ] They really corresponded to the Sephirot on the tree of life, the the Na'vi, the paths on the tree of life. Uh, a lot of entrylevel adept quote unquote uh, work is in color magic. >> Yeah. And I think it lends a lot of insight into something like if you think about like tarot cards, like we have all these various tarot cards out there. Some are just really beautiful, but maybe they don't have color to them. And
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Relevant chapter: Psychological vs Etheric Effects of Color
of the psyche for sure, but also it's, you know, the Golden Dawn had this thing that came out of the particularly the works of Ram Prasad, right? the top of work, the the nature's finer forces. Again, t trying to scienceify, if I can, you know, use a shitty word, um, spiritual things and turn it into this actual physical science. And it worked in some areas, it failed miserably in others. But one of these one of the things with color is that it's not just engaging the subconscious, the conscious mind. That's very
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Relevant chapter: Psychological vs Etheric Effects of Color
important because that's kind of the route. I was reading some stuff I wrote like two years ago and I'm reading it, you know, in putting together this manuscript for Tria Prima. I'm going through every note, everything I ever wrote. It's uh it's it's extremely extensive. And I'm reading stuff I read like I wrote like two years ago and I'm like I was psychologizing it >> and I didn't even realize it because it's like it's so strongly ingrained in
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Relevant chapter: Flashing Colors & Etheric Interaction
the idea that they had was that colors being forces in and of themselves had actual etheric kind of interactions. And what happened was when two colors primarily uh complimentary colors which if you look I don't know if you can see you see right right here. >> Yep. Yep. >> So that's the uh the munel uh or the early um color wheel in in the in the system of hues. And so complimentary colors are colors that are on the opposite side of the color wheel. They're typically colors that wouldn't
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Relevant chapter: Personal Experiences with Color Sensitivity
online that I came across on YouTube cuz I heard somebody mention in the podcast and I didn't believe it. And it was like this sequence of colors that are flashing in a particular order and it literally changes your vision. And so my vision was like [ __ ] up after I did it. So I had to go and create invert all of the slides in my Photoshop and then reverse do it to bring my vision back to order. >> That was awesome. >> It was crazy though. I couldn't believe it. Um, >> yeah,
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Relevant chapter: Addiction, Energy Drain & Parasites
drain it. So, sex addicts, drug addicts, uh, alcoholics, things like that. Um, there's a very sexualized nature to a lot of those behaviors. I know because I was an addict and I've been in addiction and recovery circles. One of the most interesting things that has ever occurred to me is that I tried to stop doing drugs and uh it was a particular stimulant and um cocaine. And um I remember that I would I would get 30 days clean and I'd have some sort of meltdown and then I would get I I because you keep track of
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