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Relevant chapter: Dion Fortune on Archetypes & Symbolism
Well said. And speaking to archetypes and archetypal natures, uh, one thing I love so much about Dion is that how she lends insight into symbolism and the mystical cabal in particular, some things she says, they just hit so perfectly. Um, one of the quotes I I posted the other day, she said, "Symbols are to the mind what tools are to the hand." an extended application of its powers and I loved it so much. And then there's something else she was saying about like getting to know and getting familiar
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Relevant chapter: Archetypes, Forms & Superessential Reality
realm of ideals or forms and helped me to understand a pretty big thing that I that has borne itself out to this day. I was thinking about this this morning. It's still I read this book, you know, 15 years ago, The Mystical Cabala, and to this day, like it's still making sense. It's it's it's not something I look back on and say no. It's like oh my god like it's still totally valid. And this idea is basically that human beings are the vessels uh for archetypal super essential
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Relevant chapter: Higher Divine Genius & Holy Guardian Angel
right? The the the part of you that is bornless, you know, um and again, he got that he took that from the bornless ritual. Uh but um to get in touch with that and become an embodiment of that, right? That was the super essential archetype of you. We're talking about embodying super essential qualities. Well, that's the that's the AR the Ary that I was talking about, right? We had that sausage analogy. Um, that's your personal ary, right? That is tantamount to you at the archetypal level. You're trying to
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Relevant chapter: Archetypal Self & Spiritual Identity
embody that because it doesn't it can't physically exist really outside of you. Um, it can communicate with you as if it is outside of you, but ultimately it's it's it's your arcade. It's the god of your microcosm as it's called. So, it's it's not really this exterior angel, although proas says because the the word the word that the golden dawn uses to describe this this this Buddha uh archetype of the self that is is is not descended. It uses the word genius. Now genius is
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Relevant chapter: Plotinus & the Three Hypostases
or intellect the divine mind that was an aspect of this you know hypoatic trinity that could it it contemplated it was the aspect of the the of the absolute that contemplated the forms inherent inside the one. So if the one was everything in undifferentiated potential, the divine news contemplated each of those things giving them form. >> And then the see the uh the third um hypothesis uh was um soul and it wasn't an individual soul. It was more so the the overarching archetype of soul you know kosu the soul
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Relevant chapter: Critique of Academic Over-Specialization
you got to write papers on that [ __ ] It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And what they do, >> what they do is they take a [ __ ] Right, this is the terrible analogy. At least that one was funny. This one won't be. You take a [ __ ] sausage. All right, you know what this thing is? It's a unified thing. Granted, it's got different parts. It's got the skin, it's got the interior, all this stuff, but the whole the overarching definition, the archetype sausage, right? And they just keep cutting it
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Relevant chapter: Archetypes vs Over-Analysis
of course there's differences. We live in the material universe, you know, like things change, people change, they morph, but like there is some overarching like ar, you know, there's an ar the Greeks would call it. there's a foundational archetype to it that is is constantly expressing what it is. And though the exterior presentation may differ, it's still expressing like this this internal tilos, this unity. And and when you constantly constantly zoom in so that you're looking at things so
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Relevant chapter: Pathworking as information scouting
higher levels is almost like information scouting, right? It's it's almost like an expedition to find some truth, some information about this uh object, thing, experience, archetype, uh quadrant of of unseen reality. And so you're going to have you have a lot of unconscious material which is you know you could have some [ __ ] affinity to Sesame Street and all of a sudden big birds in the middle of your path working and it's like oh wait it's wonderful to see you but what are you doing here? And so
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Relevant chapter: Symbolic truth vs. historical literalism
archetype being expressed. And the way I view these stories particularly of the New Testament is that they're the same way I go into my ritual space and I enact a ritual drama. I'm not sitting there doing it my mind and purely in the yetiatic realm, you know, in Yes. I'm working. I'm bringing it all the way down into mouth with the vessiah because that's how I want to draw that that current of force, that magical power all the way through so that I ground it. I anchor it here so
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Relevant chapter: Natural law behind ancient legal codes
whether it's the commandments that we know biblically or the stuff recorded within Egyptian hieroglyphics or whether it's the code of Hammurabi or whatever. These things are probably just uh truths and natural laws recognized by their cultures and their societies that stood and held true that they yeah there were underlying archetypes of you know truth and how things worked, cause and effect, things along these lines and that was probably uh what a lot of these things were. Do do you feel like that's a
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:12:57
Relevant chapter: Astral realms: lower vs higher planes
reason why it works is because all images are there, right? It's the treasure house of images. Um it's the the the the astral library. Um the accashic record, the collective unconscious. It's all there. And so, uh, you know, you could see Superman or you could see Daffy Duck. You could see Freddy Hellraiser. These kinds of archetypes are all kind of or permutations of archetypes um are are hidden there. Uh, this is also typically where you find something like the the the dweller of the threshold. Um, a
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:13:33
Relevant chapter: Astral realms: lower vs higher planes
dweller of the threshold. There's not just one. Um but uh so you need to construct something there. Uh if if if if it's a tarot card image, you're not superimposing that because some version of that archetype already exists in the collective imagination. So so you know that this is what I'm going to be working with every time. And one of the best ways to know that you're that the the pathworking has or can go wrong is when you do not observe consonant imagery. So what does this require? This requires that you
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:16:02
Relevant chapter: Rituals, operations, and protocols explained
want to over psychize stuff but I think a really good way to analogize it for modern people is to say that a ritual in some sense will typically embody an archetype um and enact that pattern forth in d in dramatic format and and typically maybe not in in in in lower level or very, you know, or even very popularized forms of the ritual. Maybe not there in those instances, but typically there is some kind of random component or ecstatic component that the ritual builds to. It's it's at the the apex of the
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 41:32
Relevant chapter: Egyptian mysteries, Mithraism, and Zosimos
same ground. they're underscored by the same mystery, the same question, the same cosmogy, the same cosmology. Um, when you strip aside the, you know, the the uh very minor, very minor cultural variations, it's this, it's the same thing. I'm definitely more of a of of a Campbell Jung archetype mono myth type because it's there. It's there. It's just wearing different clothes, you know. Um but um uh so Zosimus may have had uh may have had interaction or or knowledge of uh
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 9:07
Relevant chapter: Archetypes, symbolism, and issues with labeling forces
When I hear you talk about that, I'm like, "Yeah, that sounds that sounds on the money to me. It sounds it sounds true." But I'm the thing is that what's unclear to me is where the derivation of Lucifer and Arian, right, coming from that's that's Zoroastrian, you know, that's Iranian sort of stuff. Where are we feeling like those are as archetypes? Sure, I understand exactly what he's talking about. But why why this distinction? Like did okay, was it channeled? Did you intuitit it? Well,
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 9:41
Relevant chapter: Archetypes, symbolism, and issues with labeling forces
you know, that's fine, but you you know, you can't or maybe you shouldn't say that as if like this is objective truth, you know? I mean uh so but I I understand that part of channeling is is learning to sort of be attentive and receptive to the subjective uh worlds the interior images that arise in our minds in order to communicate things that really transcend words. I understand that. But um my confusion with that is where where the derivation of Lucif Lucifer and Arimon as agents of
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 10:18
Relevant chapter: Archetypes, symbolism, and issues with labeling forces
mysticism and materiality um to the exclusion of other you know archetypes. Uh where does that come from? So um but but like I said earlier I agree with all that like I think that that sounds very very conssonant with what is actually happening. >> Yeah. Yeah, it is kind of a double-edged sword because I mean, yeah, it could stir up interesting conversations and kind of elaborate on points and, you know, people can go back and forth and stuff, but then it also does cause loads of confusion, I think. And um but yeah,
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 12:18
Relevant chapter: Zoroastrian dualism: Ahura Mazda vs Angra Mainyu
Mazda, >> which was shortened to Ormos. Hormos and then Angramanu and those were the the the archetypes for light and dark and and sure yeah yeah you know Arian wanted to consume Mazda you know and yes absolutely it's that kind of negative dense magnetic um whirlpool end of that dipole of of Aurora Mazda and Angra Manu Arman and um you know the great translator of these philosophical ideas was um Zarathustra or Zoroaster, you know, and he he kind of was this this um initiate priest uh teacher in in his
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 33:15
Relevant chapter: Archetypes as inner realities and human behavior
nothing new under the sun. Um it it's all happening now. Like sacrifice happens every day for better or worse. And spiritualization happens every day for better or worse. It's just to what level do you want to take it and to what level do you want to embody these archetypes because they holographically exist within us all? That's kind of how I see it. And I'm not saying I'm right, but I'm I'm saying that's uh kind of a comprehensive way that I've come to make
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 33:44
Relevant chapter: Archetypes as inner realities and human behavior
sense of it from, you know, evaluating the different information. And I have a you know in correspondence with my experience interacting with other conscious beings and observing you know human nature. And so I think it's like the like the mo thing maybe it's like the negative polarity of that other polarity like there's like nested polarities. So if we have like the luciferic let's just let's use this terminology for the sake of this discussion. And if we have the lucifhpheric on one end and then the uh
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 34:17
Relevant chapter: Archetypes as inner realities and human behavior
maloian or armonic or whatever on the other end and then it's like within that sacrificial node there's also polarities one being cuz you're speaking of there's like the positive aspects or the right ways of sacrifice and then there's like the I mean yeah you can I guess we could use positive and negative for the sake of the the point. Um but yeah and then it's like then we can get into just knowing that these exist within all of us and that we have the ability to go into whatever path we choose with what
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 11:41
Relevant chapter: Symbolic truth vs. historical literalism
archetype being expressed. And the way I view these stories particularly of the New Testament is that they're the same way I go into my ritual space and I enact a ritual drama. I'm not sitting there doing it my mind and purely in the yetiatic realm, you know, in Yes. I'm working. I'm bringing it all the way down into mouth with the vessiah because that's how I want to draw that that current of force, that magical power all the way through so that I ground it. I anchor it here so
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 29:35
Relevant chapter: Natural law behind ancient legal codes
whether it's the commandments that we know biblically or the stuff recorded within Egyptian hieroglyphics or whether it's the code of Hammurabi or whatever. These things are probably just uh truths and natural laws recognized by their cultures and their societies that stood and held true that they yeah there were underlying archetypes of you know truth and how things worked, cause and effect, things along these lines and that was probably uh what a lot of these things were. Do do you feel like that's a
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 45:01
Relevant chapter: Pathworking as information scouting
higher levels is almost like information scouting, right? It's it's almost like an expedition to find some truth, some information about this uh object, thing, experience, archetype, uh quadrant of of unseen reality. And so you're going to have you have a lot of unconscious material which is you know you could have some [ __ ] affinity to Sesame Street and all of a sudden big birds in the middle of your path working and it's like oh wait it's wonderful to see you but what are you doing here? And so
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