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Transcript passage · Unknown · 1:20:34

Neoplatonism, Theurgy, Christian Mysticism & the Philosopher-Magician

Relevant chapter: Closing Reflections

appreciate, you know, it's been a while since we've done this, so this is this was [ __ ] excellent. This was a long one. I'm feeling good. Beat, but good. And I'm going to sleep well. I appreciate you, dude, because I'm I'm being honest with you. None of this is possible without you. >> You just know how to set the stage and the questions to ask and kind of, you know, you make because I got to feel safe like I can say this stuff. And so that's that's super important.

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 8:29

The Seven Sages, Socrates, Plato, and the Hermetic Current

Relevant chapter: Genius, Daimon & Divine Guidance

difference is I this it's not me. >> You know what I'm saying? It's that you so it's not conscience. >> That's not what it is. It's not conscience. Conscience is a reflection of that thing. >> Yeah. >> But anyway, you know, this is what the whole thing is. How do you go from agrarian farming, fishing to to the city of Athens? How does that happen? Certain people are instrumental, right? And you have to possess a species of wisdom that is tantamount to like an

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 1:11:39

The Seven Sages, Socrates, Plato, and the Hermetic Current

Relevant chapter: Hermes Trismegistus as Archetype, Not Deity

historical figure then in that context like they wouldn't be saying Hermes Trisus he learned from Hermes Trismaggistus as a historical figure but maybe as what Hermes Trismagistus represents in terms of like a symbol or something like that. >> Yeah. Like speaking poetically. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. like to like as if to say, you know, really I mean Hermes Trees Magistas in a lot of ways is kind of also a reflection of or of well I would say thought would be a um so in some we're getting kind of hairy

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 32:11

The Magi and the Pre-Socratics — Occult Roots of Philosophy

Relevant chapter: Memory Practices & Daily Reflection

then if they were availed more leisure they were to recollect all events of the past three days. It was believed uh nothing was more conducive to silence experience and prudence than to remember things. It was said that he had morning excitations at his house, composing his own soul to the liar, singing songs of Thales as well as homeriic verses and used dance of which he attributed to agility and bodily health. He had these verses that everyone was to repeat to himself prior to sleep. Um so the the

Related books: Esoteric Mythology, Ætheric Magic, Three Books of Occult Philosophy

Transcript passage · Unknown · 1:06:30

Circuit of Force, Magnetic Interchange, Polarity Magic, Astral Light, Etheric Charge/Forces

Relevant chapter: Etheric Theory, Levity, Gravity, and Form

seed. The image expands from the from the pinpoint to be reproduced on the screen inside the chamber just as the seed expresses its form in the subsequent growth of a plant. It is these forms of analogy that interest spiritual scientists in particular branches of mathematics for instance projective geometry wherein transformations and projections of forms are expressed through passing through passing at different angles through a point. One of the pioneers of this form mathematics was the great 17th century

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 10:36

Symbolism, Emanationism, Color Magick, Etheric Tides & Universal Planes

Relevant chapter: Polarity, Projection & Psychological Reflection

for a long time right they're mirroring each other you know all they can see it's like everything's on a gigantic like carousel, a circular, you know, a circular kind of track that we're all on that is in the horizontal plane and from wherever I am, I'm my line of sight is directly across from me, you know, and so all all I'm all I'm kind of objectifying is my my polarity, what's directly across from me, uh, diametrically opposed to me. And you see that a lot. You see that

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 11:25

Symbolism, Emanationism, Color Magick, Etheric Tides & Universal Planes

Relevant chapter: Polarity, Projection & Psychological Reflection

kind of like that that juxtaposition of perspective and this hyperfixation on what's going on directly opposite of wherever I am. And some people, you know, they observe this and they're moved to the point where um by whatever this is, by their observation and their analysis of it to sort of, you know, let's say in the sphere of politics to act against it as a countermeasure. And that starts out, you know, fine and well, right? That's that's the principle. That's you're

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 6:06

Qabalistica Pt 2: Secret Names, Sacred Vibration, and the Architecture of Becoming

Relevant chapter: Paths of wisdom and dark reflections

further downward. Now there are 10 sephirot on the tree of life. There are 22 naval paths on the tree of life that connect these the the the sephirot. They're traversible in in vision work in hermetic cabalistic magic. Um they represent life as it is experienced. um the experiential components whereas the Sephirod are archetypal things which are uniform um uh and are applicable through the collective unconscious to everything that is they would they would be more tent about to the like let's say Plato's

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 6:49

Qabalistica Pt 2: Secret Names, Sacred Vibration, and the Architecture of Becoming

Relevant chapter: Paths of wisdom and dark reflections

uh you know forms >> then you have the paths that connect them the 22 paths uh making 32 quote unquote paths of wisdom when you add this the sephirod to the Na'vi talk. But if you take the tree of this is a trick and a cold trick. They always take the glyph as a whole afterward and add that. So really there are 33. You have the the 10 sephiroth, the 22 navad and the tree as a whole. Um the tunnels of set are a con. I'm not sure where this comes from. Um, but I understand it to be that the averse tree

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 7:30

Qabalistica Pt 2: Secret Names, Sacred Vibration, and the Architecture of Becoming

Relevant chapter: Paths of wisdom and dark reflections

rather than having paths has tunnels because it's it's downward. It's it's in materiality. So it's like we're digging away from the light. We're digging into the, you know, the the arets. >> That makes the earth. >> And so so there are 22 tunnels of Seth and it's it it it becomes really interesting. Um because you have essentially uh in in in Hebrew cabala you have uh again this inherent duality within the world the material creation. And so you have it stratified into the

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 8:11

Qabalistica Pt 2: Secret Names, Sacred Vibration, and the Architecture of Becoming

Relevant chapter: Paths of wisdom and dark reflections

sitra de kadusha and the sitra. And so this sitra de kadusha is the side of holiness and the sitra is the side of impurity respectively. So uh you know again the the the sitra is the realm of this uh averse tree and it has all these tunnels which are you know they're a dark inversion of the the paths on the upright tree. So, um, that again, you know, it's it's it's just really interesting to see how much of this conversation is really coincidentally boiling down to this dark reflection. I think we've had a couple

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 14:32

Qabalistica Pt 2: Secret Names, Sacred Vibration, and the Architecture of Becoming

Relevant chapter: Baal and the averse Tree

nothing on the upright tree is demonic. >> Everything on the everything on the upright tree has has a dark reflection. And but that it's it's it the place where that dark reflection is is on the averse tree. The uh sitra the the sitra um acra. >> Oh, okay. Makes sense. Okay. And then so I came ac across uh Baleth says the 13th spirit of the Galatia and demon by day of the first deck of Leo according to the Yorum Solace demon of the first quintance of Sagittarius also spelled

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 36:00

Qabalistica : Kabbalistic Frameworks: Jewish, Christian, Hermetic

Relevant chapter: popularly, you know, known eastern aura.

popularly, you know, known eastern aura. Uh, I want to rectify that. I need to make that more like the divine plan. And the divine plan is the universe. Um, so uh, you know, I'm going to quote unquote rectify. And you know, those angels, those 72 angels have a dark reflection of the 72 demons of the the Goeta. And um that's also part of the universe. We don't you know we want to we we want to we want to assimilate that in a certain way too without you know without that stuff taking over

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Transcript passage · Unknown · 45:43

Qabalistica : Kabbalistic Frameworks: Jewish, Christian, Hermetic

Relevant chapter: have an exterior relationship to the divine light rather than

have an exterior relationship to the divine light rather than an interior relationship. And so they necessarily cause this dark reflection. Um, and so that's that dark reflection is why you have 72 angels and 72 demons. It's why you have, you know, the zodiacal signs and the the 12 princes, you know, the 12 dark princes, uh, which are the, you know, the averse zodiacal signs in, um, in that that uh, clipic cabala. But essentially, right, it says that the tree of life has has branches that tend upwards and downwards. And and

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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:00:32

The Path of the Unknown Philosopher — Martinism, the Elu Cohen, and the Light of Christian Mysticism

Relevant chapter: Meaning of “Elus-Cohen” and its symbolism

the the constellations of the zodiac on the the the outer sphere. Um so to me this is you got to remember that it was theurgic right as well as uh a grimoire style. So there's the incorporation of the shimme right the in there there's there's always things in these lines are are usually paired by sizzy right they have they have an upright and an inversion they have these reflections so you you've got there's 72 demons in the goatia uh of Solomon but there's 72 angels that form the you know the the holy the

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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:37:18

The Path of the Unknown Philosopher — Martinism, the Elu Cohen, and the Light of Christian Mysticism

Relevant chapter: Saint-Martin’s inner path and closing reflections

I want to make that I wanted to make is that uh um so at a certain point Louis Claude de San Martan says can't we just can't we do an interior rectification? Do we need all this accutramon? Do we need to be dealing with dark spirits? Do we need the swords? Do we need this the circles and the floorcloths and the candles on the floor? You know, does that need to happen? And he decides he's not going to partake in in this even though he's been trained and it's the basis of his philosophy. He's learned a

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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:37:55

The Path of the Unknown Philosopher — Martinism, the Elu Cohen, and the Light of Christian Mysticism

Relevant chapter: Saint-Martin’s inner path and closing reflections

tremendous about amount about himself, about the the way that the world works, magical operations. He goes he essentially pulls out of the Cohen and um you know starts writing as the unknown philosopher and his way is the way of the heart. It's more devotional. It's more mystic mystical um and and and focuses less on all the exterior issues and goes really really hard with the interior. And I think that's also why they're really really good counterparts, right? You have to it's, you know,

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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:38:35

The Path of the Unknown Philosopher — Martinism, the Elu Cohen, and the Light of Christian Mysticism

Relevant chapter: Saint-Martin’s inner path and closing reflections

it's not visit the exterior of the heavens, it's visit the interior of the earth and you there rectifying you will find the hidden stone which is true medicine. Right? And and that that is the way the way of the heart is the way of the Christ. And there's really there's very little danger there. and and there are there's just more than one way to skin the cat and and do good in the world. And I think personally my own preference is just that my own preference is that really by

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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:39:10

The Path of the Unknown Philosopher — Martinism, the Elu Cohen, and the Light of Christian Mysticism

Relevant chapter: Saint-Martin’s inner path and closing reflections

by rectifying your sphere of sensation, your microcosm, you will change the world, you know, but that is going to require that you have the same courage that the grimoire magician, the same skill, um the same discipline, the same dedication, um and and willingness to be guided by others who know um and follow their protocols. You have to possess all the same skills. It's just whether or not it's just the path in or the path out, you know, and and the path inward is um in many ways the more severe one.

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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:39:51

The Path of the Unknown Philosopher — Martinism, the Elu Cohen, and the Light of Christian Mysticism

Relevant chapter: Saint-Martin’s inner path and closing reflections

Amen. I hope this was very informative and perhaps sobering for people. It definitely was a big one for me. And so with that, uh, we will conclude another episode of the Atherica podcast. This was an important one for sure. Um, if anybody wants to find more on the Etherica podcast, please check out the Patreon at patreon.com/etherica. And for myself, check out philosophicalminds podcast. And how about for you, Ike? YouTube.com/arcanum. A r cvm. And then uh usually in the about section of any video, whether it's a podcast or

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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:40:33

The Path of the Unknown Philosopher — Martinism, the Elu Cohen, and the Light of Christian Mysticism

Relevant chapter: Saint-Martin’s inner path and closing reflections

one of the presentation style lectures that I put together on astrology, tarot, ritual, all that jazz, uh you will be able to find an email, my Instagram, and that stuff. But go check out the videos and um keep enjoying the Etherica podcast with us. This is a lot of fun. >> Absolutely. All right. Until next time.

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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 38:13

The Light-Bearer and the Shadow of Faith — Lucifer, the Nephilim, and the Crisis of Spiritual Rebellion

Relevant chapter: Closing reflections and future collaboration

I have had I have had so much fun doing this with you. I'm very glad that this conversation is kind of the inaugural uh conversation of the Etherica Astral Garden thing that we're doing. I couldn't be happier to be doing it with anyone else but you. And I think our conversations are something really special. And um you know I I'd like you know this was just kind of it kind of just happened. we were going to do like uh a podcast interview tonight, like a conversation, but I I'd like, you know,

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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 38:48

The Light-Bearer and the Shadow of Faith — Lucifer, the Nephilim, and the Crisis of Spiritual Rebellion

Relevant chapter: Closing reflections and future collaboration

I I want us to go back and forth uh a little bit more because I really think that you are a very good and balancing counterpoint for a lot of the you know, at the very we agree I think on a lot of core things, but I think that our delivery methods um kind of balance each other out. So, I think that you're a very good counterforce to to the conversation. >> Vice versa, complimentary indeed. Um, where would you like to direct people if they could find out more about any of the projects that you've got going on?

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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 39:23

The Light-Bearer and the Shadow of Faith — Lucifer, the Nephilim, and the Crisis of Spiritual Rebellion

Relevant chapter: Closing reflections and future collaboration

Maybe your channels, your social media, anything. >> Uh, yeah, obviously it's the um YouTube.com arcanum. A R C A N VM. That's the YouTube channel. I do weekly podcasts and educational presentations uh on the Western esoteric traditions and related topics. Um I've uh I'm teaching a course with Jamie Paul Lamb and Mark Stavish through the Institute of Hermetic Studies uh three books of occult philosophy by Hinrich Cornelius Sigrio. We're going to be teaching a course on that. It's called The

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