Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 18:16
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
all of this stuff after this very strange meditative experience my first time meditating I like went and had a body it was crazy and I started really getting into this stuff and of course you know you're 13 years old and um you're not gonna you know you're not gonna open up like Strong's Greek Lexicon you didn't even know what that is uh you so you're gonna go straight to the internet and there was this very interesting kind of new agey resource called The Reluctant messenger of
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 18:50
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
religion and science and so he had published a little vignettes and excerpts and dialogues and almost like a Socratic kind of um discursive uh way and it was very palatable to me because of the idea of a perennial tradition which I think also were what the were what the kabbalists the Christian capitalists were getting at they kind of they're kind of saying the same thing but they're taking different approaches to it so in things like uh you know Saint Issa and the Tibetan gospels and things like this
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 19:36
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
you have this idea that there is a tradition that exists independently of religious dogma and that some of the greatest teachers of all time somehow are initiated into or sort of tap that stream uh and this is true even of like like for instance you know all the great Greek early philosophers claim are are throughout the historical record are attested to have gone to Egypt for initiation and study I mean thales right Solon the law Giver um Plato Pythagoras in uh porphory's life of Pythagoras he says that
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 20:17
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
Pythagoras spent two in 20 years in Egypt astronomizing and geometrising and was initiated in no casual or superficial way so there's this idea that you kind of and again to me it's reminiscent of the hero's myth you know that mono myth the hero's journey The Call to Adventure I have to leave where I am to go and be initiated in the ways of the world the secret traditions and then to only to come back exactly the to the exact place I came from um and and you know with eyes Anew and
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 20:55
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
it's very interesting to me but you have that idea of of the great teachers and sages of the world and um I guess you'd call them you know avatars in in the the some of the Eastern systems you know they they kind of tap into this um underlying core philosophy or at least come to deliver it and so according to a lot of that stuff you know Jesus was able to embody to manifest in physical concrete reality a lot of the things that he learned right he was a great teacher I mean even in even in the you know in
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 21:39
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
in the book um pertaining to Saint Isa the gospel or Veda of sanisa or whatever it ended up being they're like astounded at how much this young kid knows about Spirit how much he intuitively understands and that's also true um in in the gospels when it is mentioned that you know Christ would spend as a young child he would spend the afternoons in the you know in the Hebrew temples conversing with the you know the rabbis and they were like shocked at how much this kid knew about Hebrew lawn things
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 22:14
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
like that so so kind of this knack for it an intuitive understanding of everything now the Christian capitalist on the other hand that we were just discussing they kind of they took the same idea from a different tack which was a little bit more dogmatic but still for their time kind of you know stretching those boundaries you know and uh thinking as far outside of the box as they were allowed without you know having to suffer the death penalty or torture or imprisonment um they look back and they said well all
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 22:51
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
of this Egyptian stuff and all of the the the stuff that the Hebrews learned from the Egyptians Christ was the Capstone everything that came before Christ was predicting him in one way or another and kind of proves his existence you know proves the fact that this thing that it's a reality um that you know this he did fulfill a the role of kind of completion as as he says in the gospels um the completion of the law so you have it coming from from from kind of the same thing is being said in slightly different ways uh from
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 23:33
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
different schools of thought again as to the the historical veracity of something like that I cannot attest because it's been you know what I say 13 it's been like 24 years really since I've taken a look at uh at some at that book um or those writings or whatever I was reading the commentary um behind it but I do remember it kind of really drawing me in um Eastern stuff is typically more palatable or at least it was in the place and time where I grew up uh it was very very heavily commoditized and therefore
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 24:13
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
easily consumable right wasn't that easy for me as a 15 14 year old to go walk into a library and ask for you know Thomas Taylor's translation of on the Mysteries or something like that um or of like you know proclus and the elements of theology but it was super easy to get a hold of the Dao de Chang and you know uh the the the um Mahabharata and stuff like that all that stuff was being republished through like you know uh torture penguin and all those those um kind of at the time Niche imprints
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 24:49
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
and they were on the shelves a book of Barnes and Noble and stuff like that and you could just it was just way way more palatable and kind of the air was of the time was saturated with Hatha Yoga and Qigong and and a lot of the Eastern stuff so it did draw me in further to The Vedic Traditions to see well if Christ went there to learn and he came back you know if Jesus went there to learn and he came back as Christ um then what's going on over there so um but what you got to remember is so can
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 25:21
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
you give me a date on that again real quick when did that the the that Russian uh 18 corresponding seven I think that was when that was published and and the documents he found I'm not sure when they were allegedly dated or if they were ever actually uh found or if they disappeared or what's the scoop on all that I'm not really sure I wouldn't be surprised but the thing is that you gotta a lot of people don't really tend to extrapolate from this is that why is it this is that there's this fixation on on
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 18:16
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
all of this stuff after this very strange meditative experience my first time meditating I like went and had a body it was crazy and I started really getting into this stuff and of course you know you're 13 years old and um you're not gonna you know you're not gonna open up like Strong's Greek Lexicon you didn't even know what that is uh you so you're gonna go straight to the internet and there was this very interesting kind of new agey resource called The Reluctant messenger of
Related books: Esoteric Mythology, Ætheric Magic, Three Books of Occult Philosophy
Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 18:50
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
religion and science and so he had published a little vignettes and excerpts and dialogues and almost like a Socratic kind of um discursive uh way and it was very palatable to me because of the idea of a perennial tradition which I think also were what the were what the kabbalists the Christian capitalists were getting at they kind of they're kind of saying the same thing but they're taking different approaches to it so in things like uh you know Saint Issa and the Tibetan gospels and things like this
Related books: Esoteric Mythology, Ætheric Magic, Three Books of Occult Philosophy
Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 19:36
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
you have this idea that there is a tradition that exists independently of religious dogma and that some of the greatest teachers of all time somehow are initiated into or sort of tap that stream uh and this is true even of like like for instance you know all the great Greek early philosophers claim are are throughout the historical record are attested to have gone to Egypt for initiation and study I mean thales right Solon the law Giver um Plato Pythagoras in uh porphory's life of Pythagoras he says that
Related books: Esoteric Mythology, Ætheric Magic, Three Books of Occult Philosophy
Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 20:17
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
Pythagoras spent two in 20 years in Egypt astronomizing and geometrising and was initiated in no casual or superficial way so there's this idea that you kind of and again to me it's reminiscent of the hero's myth you know that mono myth the hero's journey The Call to Adventure I have to leave where I am to go and be initiated in the ways of the world the secret traditions and then to only to come back exactly the to the exact place I came from um and and you know with eyes Anew and
Related books: Esoteric Mythology, Ætheric Magic, Three Books of Occult Philosophy
Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 20:55
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
it's very interesting to me but you have that idea of of the great teachers and sages of the world and um I guess you'd call them you know avatars in in the the some of the Eastern systems you know they they kind of tap into this um underlying core philosophy or at least come to deliver it and so according to a lot of that stuff you know Jesus was able to embody to manifest in physical concrete reality a lot of the things that he learned right he was a great teacher I mean even in even in the you know in
Related books: Esoteric Mythology, Ætheric Magic, Three Books of Occult Philosophy
Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 21:39
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
in the book um pertaining to Saint Isa the gospel or Veda of sanisa or whatever it ended up being they're like astounded at how much this young kid knows about Spirit how much he intuitively understands and that's also true um in in the gospels when it is mentioned that you know Christ would spend as a young child he would spend the afternoons in the you know in the Hebrew temples conversing with the you know the rabbis and they were like shocked at how much this kid knew about Hebrew lawn things
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 22:14
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
like that so so kind of this knack for it an intuitive understanding of everything now the Christian capitalist on the other hand that we were just discussing they kind of they took the same idea from a different tack which was a little bit more dogmatic but still for their time kind of you know stretching those boundaries you know and uh thinking as far outside of the box as they were allowed without you know having to suffer the death penalty or torture or imprisonment um they look back and they said well all
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 22:51
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
of this Egyptian stuff and all of the the the stuff that the Hebrews learned from the Egyptians Christ was the Capstone everything that came before Christ was predicting him in one way or another and kind of proves his existence you know proves the fact that this thing that it's a reality um that you know this he did fulfill a the role of kind of completion as as he says in the gospels um the completion of the law so you have it coming from from from kind of the same thing is being said in slightly different ways uh from
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 23:33
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
different schools of thought again as to the the historical veracity of something like that I cannot attest because it's been you know what I say 13 it's been like 24 years really since I've taken a look at uh at some at that book um or those writings or whatever I was reading the commentary um behind it but I do remember it kind of really drawing me in um Eastern stuff is typically more palatable or at least it was in the place and time where I grew up uh it was very very heavily commoditized and therefore
Related books: Esoteric Mythology, Ætheric Magic, Three Books of Occult Philosophy
Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 24:13
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
easily consumable right wasn't that easy for me as a 15 14 year old to go walk into a library and ask for you know Thomas Taylor's translation of on the Mysteries or something like that um or of like you know proclus and the elements of theology but it was super easy to get a hold of the Dao de Chang and you know uh the the the um Mahabharata and stuff like that all that stuff was being republished through like you know uh torture penguin and all those those um kind of at the time Niche imprints
Related books: Esoteric Mythology, Ætheric Magic, Three Books of Occult Philosophy
Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 24:49
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
and they were on the shelves a book of Barnes and Noble and stuff like that and you could just it was just way way more palatable and kind of the air was of the time was saturated with Hatha Yoga and Qigong and and a lot of the Eastern stuff so it did draw me in further to The Vedic Traditions to see well if Christ went there to learn and he came back you know if Jesus went there to learn and he came back as Christ um then what's going on over there so um but what you got to remember is so can
Related books: Esoteric Mythology, Ætheric Magic, Three Books of Occult Philosophy
Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 25:21
Relevant chapter: Perennial traditions and Eastern influence
you give me a date on that again real quick when did that the the that Russian uh 18 corresponding seven I think that was when that was published and and the documents he found I'm not sure when they were allegedly dated or if they were ever actually uh found or if they disappeared or what's the scoop on all that I'm not really sure I wouldn't be surprised but the thing is that you gotta a lot of people don't really tend to extrapolate from this is that why is it this is that there's this fixation on on
Related books: Esoteric Mythology, Ætheric Magic, Three Books of Occult Philosophy