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Relevant chapter: Readiness for Occult Practice & Out-of-Body Experiences
balding head from from above yourself and that you're like how the [ __ ] did I get here? You know it's it's it's jarring. >> Chris experience. >> Yeah. Right. I mean, it's like it's not I feel like people have one of two reactions. Either like, "Wow, I want to do that again." Like now. >> Mine was, "I don't ever want to do that again." But but I I did. But um but uh so she helped me make sense of symbolism. Um she helped me make sense also of the
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Relevant chapter: Emanationism & Platonic Influence
principle of emanationism. She helped me make sense of an idea that Plato had instilled in me and and and Hey, can you hear me? >> Yeah, it just chipped out for a second, but I can hear you. >> All right, give me one second. >> Okay, >> how's that? >> All right, back in business. So, so she she basically helped me make sense of something that Plato had had kind of instilled in my young mind when I was reading uh some of his dialogues in my my late teens. And uh you know the idea of
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Relevant chapter: Archetypes, Forms & Superessential Reality
realm of ideals or forms and helped me to understand a pretty big thing that I that has borne itself out to this day. I was thinking about this this morning. It's still I read this book, you know, 15 years ago, The Mystical Cabala, and to this day, like it's still making sense. It's it's it's not something I look back on and say no. It's like oh my god like it's still totally valid. And this idea is basically that human beings are the vessels uh for archetypal super essential
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Relevant chapter: Becoming What You Oppose
so everything that turned you off about it, everything that riled you up, everything that that appealed to this sense of fairness and justice in the first place, you're now giving that expression into the world. You have now embodied the very thing that you dislike. And because it's not about what politics I choose, it's not about what side I choose. It's about what force am I embodying? What super essential quality is being allowed to express itself in the world through my actions?
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Relevant chapter: Psychological vs Etheric Effects of Color
us like we don't know how else to talk about things. Yeah. It makes sense and it and it is a part of it. It's not wrong but it's not like you were saying before. Um I think you and I were having a conversation off topic. there's this particular person who like is really really on point about certain things and then he's just like ah you you're missing information. That's that's what that's really what happens when we psychize everything in magic. So it does affect the subconscious. But what the
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Relevant chapter: Introduction to Yesod & Magnetic Force
but it like has a sense of sort of magic to it. It's the best way I could describe it. >> Um, >> well, uh, the Golden Dawn would agree with you. Yeah. >> So, yes, as the reservoir of magnetic force, >> you speak a little bit to that. >> I I mean, I mentioned it a little bit when I was going through the the cabalistic sephrod earlier. Um, uh, boy, we're we're hit right now. We're just talking about all the topics of my my second book that I'm doing with blue
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Relevant chapter: Dion Fortune’s Goal: A Western Yoga
opens up the mystical cabala with I think the first line is like or the the the first chapter is the yoga of the west. That's what she calls the cabala. So, uh um she is trying to do that here. Now, it makes sense to me because um well, it makes sense to me not with the way that she has them. So she's got water corresponding to Yes. And that makes perfect sense because it's lunar and because of the generative fluids and because of the fluidic nature of the etheric energy that builds up there and
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Relevant chapter: Elemental Placement & Symbol Interpretation
obviously the throat center being air, you know, she's got it kind of pointing to dot here. It makes sense to me also because um it is uh obviously you know the center of communication and it's you know it's it's it's that that kind of thing there. >> It's also the you know the the literally they call it the the your airways your air passage is the throat. So but I think I know what you're saying. I think it was something that I'd read in Rama Prashad's interpretations of the Tatvas
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Relevant chapter: Seven Planes & Theosophical Influence
It's one of the best things about this book. >> Yeah. Um, if you flip to the next diagram, there's a diagram that depicts the seven cosmic planes and the seven universal planes. And so the uh >> this is this is another theosophical diagram actually. >> Yeah. The like the Buddha plane it says that that is the plane of the human soul or the higher self. Would this be sort of correspondent to like in the neoplatonic sense uh you know the the the places of like the archonic essences
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Relevant chapter: Dion Fortune as a “Teacher from Beyond the Grave”
>> I mean, I could try, but I would don't think I would do it any justice. >> Um, yeah. Well, I I think I've said it before on on this podcast. I consider Deion Fortune to be a teacher from beyond the grave. And I don't I don't necessarily mean that in the you know Isaac Lauran sense of the word where I'm communicating with her dead spirit. I just um she's early on in my my trajectory within initiatic societies specifically the hermetic order of the Golden Dawn. She
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Relevant chapter: Arthurian Myth & Ancestral Spirituality
there's there's a um well, that's assumed, but it makes sense that she would move to Glastenbury and set up shop there because that's, you know, the supposed island of Avalon, uh according to legend and stuff like that. But she she was also involved in um she wrote a lot. I mean for the society of inner light she had a a periodical that went out where she she would write articles on everything uh for the various initiates in her school. And that's actually that's where uh the book the
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Relevant chapter: Blavatsky, Theosophy & Misconceptions
would you would you consider it any along any like Luciferian lines or or was she just kind of use utilizing that word in that term in the sense of like light and illumination. Like some people will some people talk about uh and draw um correlations with this sort of esoteric illumination of Lucifer leading to the inspiration of like the United Nations with Levatsky. And there's like this perspective that theosophy sought like a universal world initiation of sorts and would restore like ritualis
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Relevant chapter: Change vs Changeless Reality
criterion and and what what what that needs what it means that it needs to not be existent within time. It has to be outside of time because time is evidence of change. That's all it is. Doesn't actually exist. Time is a is the way that our our five sense limited consciousness bound to the material vessel and fooled by the illusions of procriti >> exper experiences change. In reality, time is an anomaly. We cannot go backwards and we cannot go forwards in it as a as a as a as a a tool of
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Relevant chapter: Different types of logic (philosophical, mathematical, common)
somebody else and maybe yeah I guess you could say yeah it could be a logical causal chain but that's not the reality >> right >> of it it's just a logical >> right and you got to understand that I didn't say illogical what I said earlier I said I said non-logical >> because I don't mean to imply that it doesn't make sense it does make sense it just doesn't follow the small group of the small like list of imposed thing requirements for I guess what I would
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Relevant chapter: Non-logical vs illogical in magic
>> from the point of of the more especially because don't forget magic doesn't have to be spiritual like the the occult doesn't mean spiritual >> it doesn't mean satanic either >> but it doesn't mean spiritual like occult means hidden >> and that's what we're talking about when we talk about things that are non-logical there's a sequence we just can't see it it's not apparent to my sense perceptions it's the five senses that we're constantly relying on. There
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Relevant chapter: Occult meaning “hidden” and unseen causality
are other senses that we have neglected and they have atrophied because of our heavy reliance on, you know, the five senses that reside in our [ __ ] head, you know. So, so that that's the whole thing. It's safe to just say that, oh, logic is the only set of rules, but in reality, logic is a one set of rules for a very small portion of reality. Yeah. And capital D truth has nothing to do with discursive methods. Capital T truth has to do with experience. Capital T truth is noises and it's true for
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Relevant chapter: Golden Dawn origins and historical roots
you something that you mentioned earlier about um like things in regards to the formation of the system of hermetic of the old order Order of the Golden Dawn maybe like being built and constructed from guys like Wescott and Mathers and >> Mhm. >> whoever else. And but like talking about it in the sense that it was in the format that it was produced in the 1800s or was 1888. >> Yeah. But you know they had been working on it for many many years. Wescott actually was a part of a a small like
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Relevant chapter: Consciousness evolving with biology
>> Yeah. It's just interesting. I I think it's interesting too like the I because I I more so lean towards the notion of things gradually over time evolving from very small life forms into our modern life form. But I still do think that's divine. And I do think that our, you know, this conscious spirit that we have is an evolved sort of consciousness in that sense maybe. Um, but cuz I I feel like it's it's a toggle sort of though because it's consciousness evolves along with things material
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Relevant chapter: Symbolic alphabets and dream interpretation
that's going to obscure your ability to make sense of that information because the image is personal to you. Right? And one of the things that that Freud insisted, which I think is [ __ ] but he's mostly right, uh, at least for the uninitiated person, he says that the interpretation of the dream cannot happen by the dreamer. You're too close. You're too in it. There are things surrounding this image that you cannot admit to yourself. Your conscious mind can't handle it. So outsource those
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Relevant chapter: Time, space, and change
in the way in which we so time is we think of time as really concrete because we put a [ __ ] clock on the wall. It means [ __ ] It means dick. It's telling me where the sun is. Okay, that's not time. Um the thing is with time it's it's this bracket term that we use to be able to make sense of change, right? That's the the apparent necessity of time is is in the fact that I was over there. Now I'm over here. I used to look like this. I now look like this. Uh so that is more a phenomenon of of um
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Relevant chapter: The Cosmic Doctrine and theosophical influence
she she was initiated she chneled this thing. It was very theosophical, very kind of like protoscientific, pseudocientific, right? Because at that time at that time there were all these different intellectual movements, scientism uh there was a reemergence of hermitism there was you know uh the inklings of what would become new thought theosophy all vying for the public discourse and and I very clear right it's find end of the of the era 18 late 1800s uh continental Europe there everybody can sense that you know orders
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Relevant chapter: Yahweh, Christ, and two views of God
it's really not because they're speaking about two different things. the the the advent or the the event of the of the Christ figure is is really in the truest sense a testament to uh something new in the world, something different, something transcendent. So that's that's always been uh the conception of that I've had of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Uh but in terms of like archaeology, I mean, yeah, there's a ma mountain in Turkey. I think maybe it's Mount Ararat. I I don't really know.
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Relevant chapter: Ritual drama, magic, karma, and grounding force
really I if I even if I could make heads or tails of it, which I I would be kidding myself if I tried, um it still wouldn't, you know, wouldn't really matter that much to me. So, I I don't know if any of that makes sense. And I hope at least I kind of clarified a little bit the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, but I don't I'm not really sure what to say about was it God, was it this, was it that. I mean, to me, that's how God does things, whether it's the demi urge or the the
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Relevant chapter: Satan, adversarial force, and perspective
did discuss this a little bit, but I mean in the true sense of the world, in the true sense of the world, it being related to adversarial things, would it be seen that to be satanic is to be adversarial? >> Um, well, not really. Because here's the thing. We have to define where our standpoint is in terms of the adversary, right? Because if I'm the bad guy and somebody's adversarial to me, they're probably the good guy, right? So I that's an oversimplification drastically, but I want I want to show
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