Transcript passage · Unknown · 36:40
Relevant chapter: Thoughtforms, Tulpas & Imaginal Reality
that it's fake. That's another issue that people have. I I don't talk about it as the imagination. I call it the imaginal faculty. It's a spiritual power. And people don't just don't realize it's happening in a dimension that is is co-terminal. It it's coexistent and interpenetrative with all this stuff. But we don't experience it as physical until it manifests. Then we experience it as phys physical. But it's it's it's an actuality. The great line
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 23:59
Relevant chapter: Limits of consecration and magical strength
when you first start running, maybe you can only run, you know, a small loop and then eventually you're up to a marathon level. You can do more. And it's the same thing through through you know purifying your own energy body working on the etheric working on the astral working on your the mundane skills of focus will attention imagination those are those are the magical powers people talk about like oh you know you say magical powers and they start thinking about like Harry [ __ ] Potter and it's like no no no you
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 24:32
Relevant chapter: Limits of consecration and magical strength
possess the magical powers that's what animals don't have that. We have that, you know, we we've that's why for for centuries, millennia, human beings were considered, you know, the the the the highest creation. um you know, the most the most developed, the most godlike, and we are, you know, um but you know, focusing, honing in on those mundane things like willpower and imagination, focus, uh these are magical powers. these will improve your ability uh to consecrate to purify um you know kind of one of the things
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 53:37
Relevant chapter: Mercy, severity, and self-mastery
an adept of the outer order, right? When you come into become a neoight again in the inner order, right? You think you're hot [ __ ] right? And you're not. You're a neopight now. you're only it's only now that you can begin. All that other stuff was getting you ready to begin and um you should be attempting to become an adept over yourself and so you have to become the the ruler you know in your ownstead. Uh that's developing the magical powers will imagination focus um attention
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 5:53
Relevant chapter: Awareness, imagination, and freedom
apple and then the consequence is born and it goes on and on and so yeah, interestingly I find that freedom and the awareness of its existence do not necessarily go hand in hand. Uh, freedom can totally exist, but the individual may be too unaware to even recognize it. Or vice versa. He or she may starve to death based on his or her own assumption that there is no apple at all. he or she might lack or have an underdeveloped imagination, which to me is really it's almost a sort of, you know, like the the
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 6:32
Relevant chapter: Awareness, imagination, and freedom
imagination is almost like a sort of built-in freedom orientation device. And so back to what I was saying about conceptualization and imagination as a sort of seed germ that fertilizes or is fertilized by the inspirational force that drives motivations. So there's a lot that we can get into with this conversation in terms of dancing with the phil the philosophy of freedom and its associated ideas and all of that. But for one, I really think that some people value the nosis or realization of freedom more so than
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 7:46
Relevant chapter: Inspiration, motivation, and the imaginative mind
imagination and freedom as well as inspirations uh like the muses and the forces that move us some of the potential origins of an individual's uh motive force when it comes to choice making and action taking the the origins of motivations themselves in your view perhaps uh instinctual motivations could even be in the mix. But I I do kind of feel like imagination it can be used to generate uh in some sense to like a higher degree of freedom through creative conceptualizations at least uh that kind of involve like these
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 8:31
Relevant chapter: Inspiration, motivation, and the imaginative mind
inspirational forces. It seems like they descend into the imaginative mind field, if you could call it that, and kind of act as a sort of wind or weather of psychic mentation that motivates. But yeah, I guess what do you think of all that? And what are your thoughts on the relationship between freedom and and the imagination itself? Um, well, I think that you touched on a lot of things that um that I I basically had to say uh in the in your intro, which is uh was very well said, very well thought
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 10:36
Relevant chapter: Aphantasia, perception, and inner life
uh to when talking about freedom and the imagination. Um some people don't they have this sort of atrophied imagination. I've worked with a lot of people in terms of, you know, uh different esoteric curriculum or curricula and and other things as well, meditative groups, you know, energy healing, all that sort of woowoo fun stuff. And you come across more people than I thought I would uh really who believe themselves to suffer from aphantasia which I don't think actually exists. >> What is what is aphantasia?
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 16:26
Relevant chapter: Imagination limited by perception
mind. And ultimately, um you want to talk about imagination. I mean if you are completely unaware that any of this is is happening your imagination is going to to if you have a complete unawareness of the definition of freedom at a higher level you know within a broader picture um then your imagination is going to graft itself onto self-satisfying things that pander to the undeveloped person in the undeveloped state which you are and which you are in. Um and so you know we come up with these ideas of like you know what you've been
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 18:18
Relevant chapter: Ambition, identity, and programmed dreams
path, you know, going forward. So, my imagination did some incredible things, but none of it was toward freedom. All of it was in this kind of in the same direction I had always been going in. And just because I got older and just because I got a job and just because I got a car or an apartment, so to speak, you know, like just cuz all those things happened doesn't mean that I became any [expletive] wiser. You know, my my consciousness didn't really expand in three dimensions. It was expanding in
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 19:34
Relevant chapter: Choice inside a restricted system
broader picture where I now know what freedom is outside of is it Burger King or McDonald's? Is it Republican or Democrat? Is it Hyundai or Beamer? You know, like who which car which bank do I want to go $20,000 into [expletive] debt with? You know, that's choice. No way. You're a [expletive] slave. So um that's that's really uh you know imagination can only go as far as your perception can see and our perception does not see too far. You got a lot of people out there who want to be you know
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 20:38
Relevant chapter: Imagination as future-making
you know, like it's not this is not it. It didn't scratch the existential itch." Um, so that's I mean that's as far as I I think obviously the imagination is our most powerful tool for creating futures. But the question is you have to stop first and say what kind of future am I capable of creating? What am I like if I only have if there's like you know those big Crayola boxes you get when you're when you're a kid and there's like I don't know like you know 50 36 colors
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 21:08
Relevant chapter: Imagination as future-making
it's batching. If you only have three colors, like you were saying, my future is limited. I don't I don't really have choice there. I have three choices because I can't see the full spectrum. Yes. Amen. And and yeah, I think this sort of relates so as I was kind of mentioning the the sort of wind or the weather of psychic mentation and I'll include an additional important comment like on the note of weather because we are talking about freedom at a particular time and I think there's a
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 13:07
Relevant chapter: Influence on Agrippa and hidden teachings
magic and astrology working with angelic med mediations through steganographia remained in manuscript form. It influenced occult sciences in the 16th century and cryptography. Trius was also accused of necromancy and demonic magic. So I was wondering >> there it is. >> There it is. And also I believe he was the teacher uh of a grippa as well as I think Pariselus. Um, do we have any information >> or indications of who Trimus's teachers may have been or any of maybe his close
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:13:33
Relevant chapter: Astral realms: lower vs higher planes
dweller of the threshold. There's not just one. Um but uh so you need to construct something there. Uh if if if if it's a tarot card image, you're not superimposing that because some version of that archetype already exists in the collective imagination. So so you know that this is what I'm going to be working with every time. And one of the best ways to know that you're that the the pathworking has or can go wrong is when you do not observe consonant imagery. So what does this require? This requires that you
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:17:04
Relevant chapter: Importance of symbolic vocabulary and imagery
imagination, people think it's not real. Imaginal is different. I'm creating images. It doesn't mean it's not real. It's just it's real the way you know um it's real on its own terms in its own realm, you know, and it is just as objective as anything else. Um so you need to be able to do those things and then you need to be you start out typically with pathworking. They're guided. you're listening to somebody. That's just training. You can have I'm not saying you can't have somewhat of a
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:25:11
Relevant chapter: Navigating the Tree of Life safely
that way. But but use your imagination. So, um, you start out in, let's say, the temple of of Malcuth, right? And it's got all the appropriate colors, you know, citrine olive, russet black. You've got the appropriate, uh, archangelic figure there, sandalon. Uh, depending on what lineage you're working in, you might want to give a grade sign or admission badge or a handshake, whatever it is. Start out there. You must know before you go in where you're going and why. Okay? You must know that. There has to
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 23:10
Relevant chapter: Polarity Magic and Magnetic Interchange
balance at play perhaps. Uh but yeah, what is this magnetic interchange and how may it be efficiently worked with or utilized in energizing the imagination or arousing emotion or affecting >> I like well here here well here's I like I like I like the word choice arousing >> I would I this is called uh colloquially polarity magic and um it's a very powerful form of magic And sometimes it's worked completely unconsciously. Often it is between uh very dynamic couples. Um specifically,
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 36:30
Relevant chapter: Astral Light, Imagination, and the Body of Light
the rights of the Templars. Uh, do you agree with this or how would you describe the astral light? >> The astral light that he's talking about is the nephesh. He's talking about the nephesh. He's talking about the halo, right? The holy body. He's talking about the the avoades of the the neoplatonists, the the glowing aura. He's talking about uh all of that, the spirit body, the body of light, what have you. But that's not what the astral means today. Levatsky talking about it in the same way. Levy
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 37:04
Relevant chapter: Astral Light, Imagination, and the Body of Light
talked about it that way. I've not seen it referenced in Martina de Basquali and I just finished the audio book for his treatis on the reintegration of being. I've not I've never seen him refer to it as the astral >> light. Um although I wasn't reading it in the original French. I was reading a translation. So that could could be in there. But >> after after um Blovatzky when Annie Basant and Charles Leadbeater took over theosophy, they claimed to have their own ascended
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 37:39
Relevant chapter: Astral Light, Imagination, and the Body of Light
contacts, their ma their ascended masters called inner contacts. And what they did was they moved the locust of authority from her. She became a semi aqu quasi prophetic figure, right? because it was her, William Quan Judge, and Henry Steel Alcott started this Theosophical Society, and she was the only one who had contact with ascended masters. Nobody ever [ __ ] heard of that before. And then for some reason, right, oh, maybe it's a coincidence, she releases a series of books and now everybody has ascended
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 38:10
Relevant chapter: Astral Light, Imagination, and the Body of Light
masters, right? Everybody, the 16-year-old in the occult section, the self-help section of [ __ ] Barnes & Noble is talking to three or four different uh people who are initiating her in the [ __ ] astral. So, you know, it's what they did was horrible, but they appropriated that mechanism and they redefined her terminology and they reassigned the astral to the imaginal. >> Okay? >> So, when we talk about the astral now, >> yeah, >> we're talking about typically we're
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 38:38
Relevant chapter: Astral Light, Imagination, and the Body of Light
talking about the imagination, the imaginal realm. We're no longer referring to to the nephesh, the the body of light as the astral. >> Okay. I think yeah, there's this part I wanted to read. I'll go ahead and just read it and ask my question. Um, says the means of perceiving and working with the subtle manifestation of the astral light is by means of the imagination. Like you're saying, by this term, a trained imagination is intended and trained in dedication rather than in technicality.
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