Transcript passage · Unknown · 27:18
Relevant chapter: Translation History: Hebrew to Greek to Latin
talks about that and at a certain point he says, you know, oh, how far you've fallen uh h in the Greek. So in in uh henistic Egypt, there were Jews, lots of them, huge community. And from that period of platonic influence in Egypt and in Hebrew communities, we derive or what emerged really as a consequence was henistic Judaism. And henistic Judaism gave us two really important things for the western esoteric tradition. It gave us merba mysticism and it gave us the septuagent. and the Septuagent are the 70 books that were
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 46:12
Relevant chapter: Subjective vs Objective Spiritual Truth
me wrong, but, um, we don't have any Cabala before, uh, I want to say, uh, the the 10th or 11th century. >> Yeah. We have merkaba. We have merkoba mysticism which is very very it's theurgicnosticism. It has the same cosmology asnosticism. The the mystic would travel in vision to seven planetary spheres. That's the the right there. That's the the platonic cosmology. And at each one he would meet an entity, an angel that was hostile and would try to prevent him from from reaching beyond the agdoad the eighth
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 46:54
Relevant chapter: Merkaba Mysticism & Ascent Through Spheres
sphere. Again, that's from Plato and Plato's student Udoxis, right? Ududoxis came up with that idea like the same time that Plato wrote the myth of in the Republic. Um, it's amazing. It's it's just an incredible fact. Um, so that entire cosmology literally comes out of the Platonic tradition and it was the dominant way of looking at the world for about 2,000 years, 1500 years. >> Yeah. So, so um so mysticism, you know, they want to go and and behold the throne of God outside
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 47:28
Relevant chapter: Merkaba Mysticism & Ascent Through Spheres
the realm of causality and they have to go through these eight spheres and and at each of the seven planetary spheres, they meet an angel that tries to knock them back down. It's [ __ ] nasticism. It's theoricnosticism. And they learned all this stuff. This stuff came directly out of the Maraba literature. Um uh maraba meaning chariot. It came out of this stuff in helanized. We the records we have are from helanized uh Egypt. You know all this stuff was Alexandria was Egypt right in that
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 1:00:18
Relevant chapter: Plato, Pythagoras, and mathematical realism
So what what are they too known for? You know Plato obviously known for the mystical Platonic dialogues that expound the magical worldview. In the Tiamus you have the microcosm and the macrocosm which is you know that that is hermitism as above so below. In Pythagoras, you have number mysticism, which is of supreme importance to the three books of occult philosophy. If you cannot understand mathematical realism, you will not understand a grippa. But what's more important is you will never be able to
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 1:01:18
Relevant chapter: Mercy, severity, and sephirotic rulers
princes the orig are originating from severity. So yeah, it's like >> so that's that's the pill that's the pillar of severity right there. >> Yeah, that makes sense. Sweet. Um, so much >> we figured it out >> information. We fig we cracked the code to reality. We we know all >> Oh, that was really fun though. Um, >> yeah, that was fun for me, too. It felt like being kind of I don't know, like on an intellectual safari of Jewish mysticism. I I really liked it.
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:20:24
Relevant chapter: Step-by-step example of a pathworking ritual
think I'm saying they were doing cabalistic path workings in ancient Greece. I'm just saying, you know, this stuff has been around a lot longer than the Hebrew Cabala and or at least contemporaneous with it, right? I think like the period of Plato would have been the same period as like the Psalms and back then they had like, you know, Merkaba wisdom and stuff. So, and and it was a similar thing in Merk in Merkaba mysticism, Merkaba traditions is that typically the the the the Merkaba mystic
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 0:51
Relevant chapter: What Martinism is and its Christian mystical roots
unpack Martinism a little bit and get into it. >> Yeah. Where do you begin? Um, which which which Martin do you begin with? Uh um I guess to me Martinism as we understand it today as it appears in things like um you know uh the Martinist Order of America of which I've been a member for for a number of years uh or the uh the OM o de Monteneist uh it's essentially an initiatic current um of Christian mysticism. It's it's uh uh so Louis Claude de Samatan he wrote as in in um in uh France of in the 1700s he wrote
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 11:38
Relevant chapter: Jacob Boehme, Christian esotericism, and the Golden Dawn
awakening of the Christ force within us. And um so I'm not certain how to what extent uh Martine or uh uh Louis Claude De Sam Martanam was influenced by Yakab Burmy's work but I do know that they are extremely consonant. I do know that at at heart they are it it's it's Christian mysticism, right? I mean, the Golden Dawn, you go into uh a temple and you're walking around doing a lot of circumambulations and wearing funny headdresses and stuff and uh you have all these tests and
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 12:15
Relevant chapter: Jacob Boehme, Christian esotericism, and the Golden Dawn
these this curriculum to memorize and then you get into the inner order and you're doing proper theology and it's all these reports and things like it's excellent. It's excellent. In Martinism, you retire to your prayer closet. You know, it's it's the way of the heart. It's not the way of the head. It's Christian mysticism uh for for a more modern audience. Um and in the millu of the esoteric uh initiatic format, those those orders. >> Yeah. Yeah. I drew from some of the
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:47
Relevant chapter: Questioning Luciferian timelines and Steiner’s framework
he describes Arammon and Lucifer basically like a dipole of forces one more so of materialism and the other as more like mysticism >> intellect >> um >> which seeks to elevate us arrogantly beyond beyond our actual capacities, abstraction and the balance being uh life in the middle as the Christ or the equilibrium. And then you know he speaks of the incarnation of the cosmic spirit of Christ descending down and uniting with the human uh you know Yahashua I think is what he actually
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 10:18
Relevant chapter: Archetypes, symbolism, and issues with labeling forces
mysticism and materiality um to the exclusion of other you know archetypes. Uh where does that come from? So um but but like I said earlier I agree with all that like I think that that sounds very very conssonant with what is actually happening. >> Yeah. Yeah, it is kind of a double-edged sword because I mean, yeah, it could stir up interesting conversations and kind of elaborate on points and, you know, people can go back and forth and stuff, but then it also does cause loads of confusion, I think. And um but yeah,
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 13:06
Relevant chapter: Zoroastrian dualism: Ahura Mazda vs Angra Mainyu
time and era. Some really cool stuff in in that early Iranian stuff. Zoroastrianism is very very interesting. But yeah, you know, it does it it just gets confusing. Now, had he had had you said, you know, had had Steiner said all that without having to label it luciferian and arimmonic, >> it would have been like to me it would have been like more successful because that now I'm not trying to picture things that don't really relate. You could have just said these are the dipoles, mysticism and materialism. you
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 1:07:39
Relevant chapter: Etheric Theory, Levity, Gravity, and Form
the principle of number in the periodic table. Their properties depend upon the number of electrons and protons that make up their atomic structure. Number is also a key to sound and the principles of harmony which of course is part of part and parcel of pathogian mysticism. The principle of form is not merely a question of a body's external shape. It is an inner quality. And it is from this inner quality based upon number that external qualities such as color, taste, smell, healing or harmful
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 22:05
Relevant chapter: What Kabbalah Is & Esoteric Exegesis
pertaining to um uh magic but uh other good examples right the cabalistic books. So people say and I've said it I'm taking it back. I'm correcting myself. People say that Cabala is Hebrew mysticism. It is not. Um if Cabala is anything because it's not unified. There are many different schools of thought. There it's a method of esoteric exigesis. Exugesis is interpretation of a text. Um, and so it's usually in a critical way, but but it's it's less critical and it's more um
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 28:45
Relevant chapter: Pythagorean Parallels & Hellenistic Influence
had that's when you get the Septuagent which is the translation of Hebrew scripture into Greek and then from there you get the heckalot literature which is the which you know the work of the chariot um and and that's that whole Merkaba mysticism that that Hebrew theurgic tradition comes from that time period which is when they were doing you know uh having the same kinds of ideas and and really really uh I mean the Giuliani who are supposed to have uh composed the the called in oracles, you know, that
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 1:06:30
Relevant chapter: Iamblichean Theurgy & Merkaba Mysticism
basically indicative of the same thing or how do you make sense of that or is it Yeah. Just any thoughts on like how those two things kind of cross uhly.
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 5:03
Relevant chapter: Comparing Merkaba Mysticism and Egyptian Funerary Texts
like this descent terminology in terms of the Merkoba mysticism of the Hebrews, how could we weigh this up against things like Egyptianerary texts like the book of gates or the book of coming forth by day or things like this? Is there some pretty heavy crossover as well? Yeah, I think absolutely that time spent in the underworld, it's all talking about the same thing. And the the trouble is that it would it would take another hour for me to explain to people >> Yeah. >> that might be listening what is
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 49:06
Relevant chapter: Universal Patterns in Science & Mysticism
biochem and things like that in there. And then I and then I eventually parlayed into Chinese medicine. So what I really got to see is that very interesting crossover for you look at things like on an atomic level just the basic principles of how things are put together positive, negative and neutral, right? This is triopa you know so simple. Yeah. And not only that but when studying cabala it's the superal triad and then as I get into Greek philosophy it's the three hypotheses. We're talking about a a a primordial, you know, this this one substance that behaved
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 49:43
Relevant chapter: Universal Patterns in Science & Mysticism
or or went through underwent three phases. And since that time, right, as Eliotti would say, Enilo tempor since that time, everything that has ever come into existence has been some reflection of that threefold permutation. And not only that, but then you see the the binary, right, which is also a key factor in in things like uh like alchemy, celestial salt, celestial niter, and and we have in Cabala, we have the two pillars of mercy and severity, Yakim and Boaz, Hermes and Solomon. You've got this obviously, yeah, there's lots of gray area, but the binary is necessary to
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 50:27
Relevant chapter: Universal Patterns in Science & Mysticism
create the spectrum. And you see a lot of that in biochem with with like you look at enzymes and things like that. a lock and key system it's called. You know what I'm saying? So, chemistry, biochem, chemistry of all sorts is it's it's the greatest affirmation that these wacky sages on a mountain somewhere, you know, 2,000 years ago were [ __ ] right. You know, they figured it out without [ __ ] microscopes, you know. So, it's it is very important. Um, I tend to, you know, it's
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 51:01
Relevant chapter: Universal Patterns in Science & Mysticism
I tend to, um, I really enjoy it and I love it, but it's it's not something I I feel like I'm an expert at. So, I I try not to speak about things I'm not an expert at, but I love listening to you guys go back and forth because you have much more of a handle on it in terms of how it applies alchemically. So, but I that's why I think this is a really unique and special kind of right. We're doing this this interesting triad conversation tonight where there's this alchemical and and and
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 51:32
Relevant chapter: Universal Patterns in Science & Mysticism
um you know scientific kind of uh symposium going on. But then also we're tying it back to initiation trying tying it back to philosophy and to really show that alchemically that al alchemy is applicable to everything. And that's what's so perplexing about it, right? Because you could be when you talk about alchemy, you be talking about anything. Every everything goes, right? People always say, "Oh, sorry. Maybe that was off topic." And it's like impossible. It would
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Chapter match · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 0:00
Relevant chapter: Dion Fortune on Archetypes & Symbolism
A focused chapter on symbolism inside Symbolism, Eminationism, Color Magick, Etheric Tides & Universal Planes.
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