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Relevant chapter: Dion Fortune on Archetypes & Symbolism
Well said. And speaking to archetypes and archetypal natures, uh, one thing I love so much about Dion is that how she lends insight into symbolism and the mystical cabal in particular, some things she says, they just hit so perfectly. Um, one of the quotes I I posted the other day, she said, "Symbols are to the mind what tools are to the hand." an extended application of its powers and I loved it so much. And then there's something else she was saying about like getting to know and getting familiar
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Relevant chapter: Learning Symbolism from Dion Fortune & Other Influences
to speak on about Dion and symbolism along those lines? Yeah, she taught me how to what it was for, you know. She literally she taught me exactly how to utilize um symbolism. I got some of it from Regggery. I even got a little bit of it and I, you know, this is this is a probably, as you know, a big admission for me. I got a little bit of it from Crowley. Um because even if I don't agree, like I will read it anyway, you know. Um because there's something to learn from everybody. Nobody is completely, you know,
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Relevant chapter: Learning Symbolism from Dion Fortune & Other Influences
don't read that. I'm not a believer in it. Um but but uh the force of Crowley's personality tends to drag people into like uh cult status. So there's that. But um Dion Fortune principally taught me how to utilize the occult and what the occult was. Um, but she gives you just enough that you're not able to project these things that she's talking about onto your own experience. She she gives you just enough to the point where you can understand your experience if you're if
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Relevant chapter: Readiness for Occult Practice & Out-of-Body Experiences
balding head from from above yourself and that you're like how the [ __ ] did I get here? You know it's it's it's jarring. >> Chris experience. >> Yeah. Right. I mean, it's like it's not I feel like people have one of two reactions. Either like, "Wow, I want to do that again." Like now. >> Mine was, "I don't ever want to do that again." But but I I did. But um but uh so she helped me make sense of symbolism. Um she helped me make sense also of the
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Relevant chapter: Elemental Symbolism & Tibetan Correspondences
cobalistic tree where it was showing the five sephurat that comprise the middle pillar. Um, each with an elemental correspondence from earth to ether at the top. And I noticed there's like a resemblance to the um the elemental symbols of this system and the symbols that they were using. They seem like they related to the top fuzz except like the air and the water. They weren't necessarily in the same positions I would have thought they would have been. Um I would have thought, you know, they
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Relevant chapter: Elemental Symbolism & Tibetan Correspondences
would be reversed corresponding symbolically. Uh, but that I don't know. Maybe these symbols were just a coincidental. >> Well, where where um I'm I'm not I don't I'm not looking at it. I mean, I could I have it right here. >> Yeah. >> Let me see. I mean, unless you want to screen share. Do you know what page it's on? Do you have it? >> Um, I can pull it up real quick. Let's see. >> I know she's got all these these she's got a couple of really cool diagrams in
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Relevant chapter: Elemental Symbolism & Tibetan Correspondences
here that I've been I have used for years. I've incorporated into my own uh kind of Henistic system. Right. She's got like the liar of Orpheus in here. >> Oh, yeah. I wanted to touch on that one, too. >> Oh, it's it's okay. I see it here. >> I see one of them. The method method of triangle working. >> Let me see. >> Let me see if it's the same one. >> I got to reread this. I should have done this for book club. I let everybody pick the mystical cabala.
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Relevant chapter: Plato’s soul, the beast, and the inverted pentagram
because we are in we we are what we are is insoling a physical mechanism that has needs, desires, feelings, impulses. To gratify that is to identify only with the animal. That's why Satan is depicted as a beast. Several beasts. He's a composite beast. It's a [ __ ] chimera. That's why they show him as a goat goat, you know, as a goat. Now, the thing is um and there's also symbolism in in the shape of the goat with its horns and its ears and its its beard, right? Because that is the
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Relevant chapter: Intro & episode setup
Right. Welcome to another episode of the Atherica podcast. Podcast for the modern philosopher magician. I'm Sky Matthysse joined with Ike Baker. How you doing, Ike? >> Very good, man. I'm happy to be here with you tonight. >> Me as well. I'm excited. Um, we're going to discuss a little bit of esoteric symbolism, some of some kind of Golden Dawn insights, uh, then potentially get into some guy named Cornelius Sria. Apparently, he knew a thing or two about magic. Um, but
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Relevant chapter: Ritual bathing, cleansing, and shifting consciousness
particularly in the golden dawn the hermetic order the golden dawn system you take a ritual bath um that can take many forms I do not get in a bath I shower because it's it's it's too time consuming to draw a bath but um the symbolism is there and symbolism is extremely powerful it can influence your states of mind obviously very obviously not that even that it can it does it's just to what degree and in what direction does it influence it um and I think that that's a huge thing
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Relevant chapter: Chaldean Oracles and ritual purification
oracles. And there are two more elementally. One for earth, one for air. Um but those are the purificatory uh canacles or whatever you want to call them. Um so purification has to happen first and typically it's multi-layered. Um you know, but there's lots of ways to do it. the there's a symbolism to it, but there's an there's also something that you're you're actually doing. There's a symbolism that is exalting and purifying in terms of, you know, psychologically.
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Relevant chapter: Magical implements and symbolic tools
thought. Anatomy philosophy you know uh anatomy and energy theory were not two separate things until fairly recently. All right sweet. So that answers a lot of my questions that that was really interesting. So all right symbols um implements in the practice and theory. So we see a lot of uh patterns of symbolism within things like the tarot you know they're a lot intertwined with various esoteric orders. I don't know if some are exclusive to the Golden Dawn like I don't know like the Krux uh and
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Relevant chapter: Magical implements and symbolic tools
or what um but yeah >> Krugansata yeah >> the Krugs is just the ank that's all the krugs is >> oh okay >> yeah so those were there's there was five in particular I was just interested in kind of unpacking the symbolism and utilization within um you know Golden Dawn and whatnot So, one was the the wands and then the cups, uh, daggers, the crooken scourge. Is that the right way to say that? Scorge. >> Scourge. Yeah, >> scourge. And then the kruan. >> Kransata.
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Relevant chapter: The cup, receptivity, and the feminine principle
things will start to burgeon forth parts of our personality. If you if you work with the cups and you meditate on the cups what are they? Receptive. They're containers, you know. Um, and if you start meditating on them, you become more receptive. You become more feminine. You become more of the ba quality. If you saturate your psyche in that kind of symbolism because the the the wand is incomplete without the cups. Once you're a Golden Dawn adept, every time you have one of your tools out, all
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Relevant chapter: The pentacle, earth, and balance
earth triangle is the water triangle with the bottom the basal line of the fire triangle running through it. So, so that that's that's what the the one of the significations or the symbolism of the hexog on the pentacle, but it's supposed to represent, you know, uh your physical life, your physical body. You, you know, even, you know, if you want to look at it in terms of like it's a disc, it kind of resembles a coin. Coins used to be made out of, you know, they're still made out
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Relevant chapter: Mercy, severity, and self-mastery
intention. So there is a cabalistic significance to this and the cabalistic significance is obvious, right? Mercy, the shepherd's crook, the good shepherd. I lead my people, you know, I ultimately I ultimately impart upon them a species of benevolence, right, in leading them. I'm not going to lead them astray. I'm not going to leave and I'm talking about the symbolism of the crook. I'm not talking about what Golden Dawn adepts think of themselves, right? We have no people. But I'm talking about the symbolism of
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Relevant chapter: Mercy, severity, and self-mastery
that keeps this, you know, noble is the fact that my mercy is holding it back until now it's time to let the the scourge out because there is an application for it. So these are very very important things and there's other symbolism to them that if you want to know go become a Golden Dawn adept because I'm not going to tell you. >> Yeah. Beautiful night. That was all super enlightening and informative. I didn't that was more cool than I thought it was going to be. So that's awesome.
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Relevant chapter: Venus symbolism and Egyptian polarity
>> the uh >> the uh that's very >> portal. >> That's very see now you're on to something. the kran sada according to you know when like Max Heindel and all these guys these old [ __ ] you know uh 19th 20th century Rozy Christians they were talking about how the krugs and I don't I don't think they're wrong but it's you know I wouldn't be so bold as to assert that but it's an interesting correlation kruan sata being the ancient form of the the symbol for the for the
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Relevant chapter: Venus symbolism and Egyptian polarity
planet Venus They're the same thing. It's a cross surmounted by a circle. uh you know >> in your um I guess traditionally it's common understanding the ancient Egyptians they were more of a matriarchal or patriarchal society or >> they were abs 110,000% they were not a matriarchal society there were like there were like I think like three or four female pharaohs and the and the only one, you know, and they had they had to rule because they they had this thing about bloodlines in ancient Egypt.
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Relevant chapter: Venus symbolism and Egyptian polarity
Um, which we can get into that the occult significance of blood and things like that because >> that is that's I mean I learned more about that from the the Dowist perspective >> I mean dowist stuff is way more it embraces chi theory. Chi theory is the first thing you learn and then everything else is secondary.QI is etheric energy. >> So it's um you know that's really interesting. But they had this thing about bloodlines and so when when female leaders took the throne they did so
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Relevant chapter: Venus symbolism and Egyptian polarity
because they had to because either their sons you know were were not old enough or incompetent or somebody had died. And Hatcheepsut was one of the the new kingdom uh lady pharaohs and she was arguably she was the only pharaoh to rule in Egypt in a in a time of prosperity. She did a great job. And that's not to say anything about about women, but it's it's more so that you know historically, you know, incontrovertibly a patriarchy. Um but in terms of let me let me back up incontrovertibly a
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Relevant chapter: Venus symbolism and Egyptian polarity
patriarchy in terms of the outward presentation. >> Okay. because the marriage was extremely important and particularly in the new kingdom statuary uh in um Luxor and Carac uh you see the pharaohs the great pharaohs sitting beside their queens you know they're they're not just portrayed it's this is the the the royal couple and that is very very important they didn't separate male and female, but the masculine embodied the active >> out there, you know, out in public, you
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Relevant chapter: Venus symbolism and Egyptian polarity
know, uh is the face of things, you know, warlike a lot of the time. and and then the feminine receptive uh was more of the the power behind the power, you know, the other half of the duo, you know, but just not not the not the public face of it all. But they didn't um you know, it was huge. I mean even if you look at the Opeth festival and stuff like that they in their pantheon of gods there was always was always some kind of pair male female pair you know and because they understood that this is the
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Relevant chapter: Venus symbolism and Egyptian polarity
way the p the underlying pattern of the universe is male female you know it's it's just too it's it's lock and key that's all anything is you can you can look at it from human sexuality and reproduction to like enzymes s you could, you know, you could go like granular, molecular, microbial. It's, you know, it's all >> in one in one way or the other. >> Aren't you aware um males males can have babies these days? So, it's 2023, so >> we we're not going to be around for that
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