Transcript passage · Unknown · 10:29
Relevant chapter: Theosophy & Attempt to Modernize Esotericism
attempting to be a part of this new world and and v for prominence within the sphere of public ideas and identity and ideology. Um so that's that's when you see you know the theosophical society kind of I wouldn't say that it happened so much with Bllovadsky. I mean, yeah, she definitely set the tone, but with with Basant and and even Alice Bailey and especially with Lead Beater, you seeing his stuff on the chakras and and uh his stuff on the etheric body, you know. Um there's one other guy, too.
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 18:23
Relevant chapter: Transition to Discussion on Theosophy & Lucifer
thing uh is that um well [ __ ] I I completely forgot. So let's let's uh what do you think about everything I just said? >> I think it's beautiful. I think that's a great overview. Um there was a question. And this is like kind of an off-topic thing from Dion Fortune, but um still I kind of related because we're talking about Bvatsky and like the theosophy of Bvatsky and all of that and you mentioned like um a little bit which made me think of these thoughts um like with her theosophy
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 19:01
Relevant chapter: Blavatsky, Theosophy & Misconceptions
would you would you consider it any along any like Luciferian lines or or was she just kind of use utilizing that word in that term in the sense of like light and illumination. Like some people will some people talk about uh and draw um correlations with this sort of esoteric illumination of Lucifer leading to the inspiration of like the United Nations with Levatsky. And there's like this perspective that theosophy sought like a universal world initiation of sorts and would restore like ritualis
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 19:36
Relevant chapter: Blavatsky, Theosophy & Misconceptions
ritualism and um >> no absolutely not >> like this. >> Absolutely not. Blletski was against ritual. >> She basically she basically said yes. Are there adepts? Absolutely. Do they practice? Do they have what we would call, you know, magical powers, CDs? Absolutely. Is that you? [ __ ] no. Are you going to do that? No. Do I recommend the practice of magic? Absolutely not. That's why the Golden Dawn, you know, Wescott and Mathers also working with Anna Kingsford who was much
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 13:22
Relevant chapter: Theosophy, root races, and problematic speculation
the laws of duality with unity in mind. That's how you that's the formula. But um so in terms of different races, we get into hairy territory when we when we start reading like the the theosophical stuff, you know, um she talks about the, you know, Helena Blavatzki and and her quote unquote successors, talk a lot about the five root races, the Lemurans, the Atlanteanss, and this is all quote unquote channelneled stuff. So it's like, should she have been writing about this? probably the [ __ ] not. You know,
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 14:00
Relevant chapter: Theosophy, root races, and problematic speculation
this is in this way, this is when like spirituality can kind of inflate the ego to the point where like, you know, the road to hell becomes paved with good intentions. This, you know, this kind of stuff is for you because it's not you've got people now talking about like the Lemuranss and stuff like that because it was channeled again and like the raw material and all this stuff. It's like you don't [ __ ] know. We have no idea. And here's a better question. Does it matter? No. Let's suffice. It doesn't
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Transcript passage · Unknown · 55:29
Relevant chapter: The Cosmic Doctrine and theosophical influence
she she was initiated she chneled this thing. It was very theosophical, very kind of like protoscientific, pseudocientific, right? Because at that time at that time there were all these different intellectual movements, scientism uh there was a reemergence of hermitism there was you know uh the inklings of what would become new thought theosophy all vying for the public discourse and and I very clear right it's find end of the of the era 18 late 1800s uh continental Europe there everybody can sense that you know orders
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 1:36:14
Relevant chapter: Spiritual light body and layers of consciousness
what has worked for me in correspondence with the model of the four worlds, right? Uh the cabalistic model of the four worlds is kind of basing my idea of or the way that I model these things um on uh the four worlds concept and essentially the interpretation of theosophy which was really in interpreting the the eastern vidantic kind of conception of the way that the soul projects downward into the material. It's projecting in like this quote unquote downward trajectory. Trajectory of density as you put it
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 2:28
Relevant chapter: What Martinism is and its Christian mystical roots
is a real pleasure um but but there's a lot of stuff just I'll say right out of the gate if anyone is interested in anything that we touch on Rose Circle Publishing, Rose Circle Books. Uh they've got a lot of quality titles that I would highly recommend. I have several of them, but uh Louis Claude de Samatan, the uh um 18th century French philosopher, and I guess you could call him like an early theosophist, not having to do with like actual uh Bllovatzki theosophy. I would say more
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 3:09
Relevant chapter: Louis Claude de Saint-Martin and “the way of the heart”
more along the lines of like proper theosophy of uh Jacob Burman um right specifically Christian within that Christian millu because he understood the heart of the message because the message is the heart um and that's exactly what he called his system the way of the heart. So, um, a lot of what we receive from Martinism actually comes through people like, uh, uh, well, Gerardo, right? Papu, Papus, Papus, a lot of people call him. He actually was the one who started the Martinist order. Um, and there's a joke
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 36:10
Relevant chapter: Theosophy, Steiner, and Lucifer as lightbearer
soul is impervious to dissolution while here. I don't think everyone gets out. Um [clears throat] but uh that my personal stuff aside, um I know that Lucifer was very very popular among the theosophical writings of the 1800s and in the writings I I believe of theosophically derived um authors and their sort of attendant uh or or They're splinter organizations. A really good one is uh Rudolph Steiner and anthroposophy, right? Started out as a >> Theosophist. >> Um so there's there was even a magazine
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 36:56
Relevant chapter: Theosophy, Steiner, and Lucifer as lightbearer
called Lucifer. It was an occult magazine called Lucifer. And and the idea in that theosophical literature expounds is is that Lucifer is the lightbearer and not Satan. And um [clears throat] and it's actually like you hear the masons talking about light all the time, you know, uh light in masonry, >> [clears throat] >> etc. That's that's definitely um like one of the main verbiages uh or or things that they that they rely on part of their vernacular is what I mean to say. And then you have this whole idea
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 25:58
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
specifically the the religions and practices of India and Eastern Asia at this time and I mean you look at the theosophical society you look at you know even in the early 20th century uh paramahansa Yogananda kind of you know even so even when the gold the Hermetic order the Golden Dawn was outed in the newspaper of 1880s London right after the horos Scandal and and the Crowley lawsuits and all that stuff between Mathers and Crowley over the intellectual property the rituals of the Golden Dawn and
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 26:38
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
everything was laid bare out of legal necessity standing that it was a western tradition right they were talking about Theology and they were talking about you know uh samothresian Mysteries and and and and and the ancient Egypt the papers made fun of them by by having some advertisement or some wacky headline saying uh you know making fun of the obligation the ritual obligation of of of the um the neophyte ceremony or the Hermetic order the Golden Dawn which ended up you know being released in
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 27:14
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
court uh uh it made fun of the obligation by saying do you swear to your to your Swami or something like that that's an Indian term that was never used and never associated with the golden dong in its earliest iteration never so um even back then The Vedic stuff was had penetrated uh you know the the the um mainstream Consciousness and this was because of in 1858 uh England colonized India you know and um they went over there and things like tea right began to be introduced uh to and spices began to be introduced to England
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 28:03
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
and um and with it you know because you had all these adventurers and people you know writing about their their their their their sojourns in the East uh very exotic um previously sort of um inaccessible interior to them it began going over there under the auspices of the British Empire um if you had enough money you could play ball right I mean and and so they'd go over on these Expeditions and they managed to you know found things like the East India Company and things like that and uh they began to see the yogis you know the
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 28:42
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
the the the seedas the the I guess magicians the medicine man who sat outside and contorted positions for hours and you know their heart rate and their their respiratory rates would drop and they you know some of that was them kind of seizing on this idea that like look there's foreigners with fresh money um let's put on a show that you see that you see that even in like in places that have been colonized by England today you know like places like where I just got back from Egypt for example
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 29:13
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
um and that really is when that stuff began being imported wholesale into Western Consciousness really so it makes sense to me that like particularly like a journalist right uh that like it's just if you're a journalist it's in your blood to sensationalize everything um but uh would like Levy right elephant's Levy was he was a journalist he wrote sensationally and cryptically and you could read you could read his books 40 times like I have and still extrapolate maybe five or six sentences
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 29:46
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
that are worth anything he said a lot though a guy said a lot but um how much of it was worth listening to we're still not sure the jury's out so um I tend to I tend to view things like that that kind of syncretic you know uh textually unverifiable or unsubstantiable as as yet sort of stuff as interesting and maybe there's a spirit of Truth but it's not something I can I'm Really Gonna be able to with any reliability admit into my sort of um interior Library definitely yeah well there was a
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 25:58
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
specifically the the religions and practices of India and Eastern Asia at this time and I mean you look at the theosophical society you look at you know even in the early 20th century uh paramahansa Yogananda kind of you know even so even when the gold the Hermetic order the Golden Dawn was outed in the newspaper of 1880s London right after the horos Scandal and and the Crowley lawsuits and all that stuff between Mathers and Crowley over the intellectual property the rituals of the Golden Dawn and
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 26:38
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
everything was laid bare out of legal necessity standing that it was a western tradition right they were talking about Theology and they were talking about you know uh samothresian Mysteries and and and and and the ancient Egypt the papers made fun of them by by having some advertisement or some wacky headline saying uh you know making fun of the obligation the ritual obligation of of of the um the neophyte ceremony or the Hermetic order the Golden Dawn which ended up you know being released in
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 27:14
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
court uh uh it made fun of the obligation by saying do you swear to your to your Swami or something like that that's an Indian term that was never used and never associated with the golden dong in its earliest iteration never so um even back then The Vedic stuff was had penetrated uh you know the the the um mainstream Consciousness and this was because of in 1858 uh England colonized India you know and um they went over there and things like tea right began to be introduced uh to and spices began to be introduced to England
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 28:03
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
and um and with it you know because you had all these adventurers and people you know writing about their their their their their sojourns in the East uh very exotic um previously sort of um inaccessible interior to them it began going over there under the auspices of the British Empire um if you had enough money you could play ball right I mean and and so they'd go over on these Expeditions and they managed to you know found things like the East India Company and things like that and uh they began to see the yogis you know the
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Transcript passage · Sky Mathis & Ike Baker · 28:42
Relevant chapter: British India, Theosophy, and esoteric syncretism
the the the seedas the the I guess magicians the medicine man who sat outside and contorted positions for hours and you know their heart rate and their their respiratory rates would drop and they you know some of that was them kind of seizing on this idea that like look there's foreigners with fresh money um let's put on a show that you see that you see that even in like in places that have been colonized by England today you know like places like where I just got back from Egypt for example
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